Joseph KIRTLAND = Elizabeth HALL

Married ABT 1850

Joseph KIRTLAND:

Born 1825, Marylebone
Christened 1 Jan 1826, St James Spanish Place
Died 1916
info from Christine Fielding.
Naval pensioner. Harbour Master or Coast Guard worker? Margate or ?Ramsgate?
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Joseph Kertland


Elizabeth HALL:

Born 19 Mar 1825, Stepney
Christened 17 Feb 1843, Whitechapel
Died 1916
daughter of William Hall, tailor, and Rebecca (Richards?)
From C. Fielding:
I was able to trace Elizabeth Hall, wife of Joseph Kertland. My mother found a yellowed piece of paper with her birthdate and that of her sister's. Elizabeth was born March 19, 1825 to William Hall (a tailor) and wife Rebecca (Richards?) in Stepney, London. She was christened Feb. 17, 1843 at St Mary Whitechapel.
Before marrying Joseph Kirtland she had an earlier marriage to James Withers Titley on October 11, 1846 . James was a journeyman painter, born about 1822 in Shrewsbury and died August 3, 1851. He drowned "whilst swimming" in the Regents Canal. The two had one daughter, Elizabeth Amelia Titley born June 30, 1848 who married a William Gilbert (about 1843 to 1898) on Oct. 5, 1868.
Elizabeth Amelia was brought up as Joseph Kertland's stepdaughter. Joseph witnessed her wedding and Elizabeth Amelia's sixth child was named Joseph Kirtland Gilbert (1882 - 1890).




Elizabeth Kertland

Joseph William KIRTLAND

Christened 4 July 1858
Died BEF 1861
This may be the 'Tommy' who drowned aged 4.

Richard James KIRTLAND = Elizabeth BATTEN > Family

Married 27 April 1884, Clerkenwell

Richard James KIRTLAND:

Christened 7 October 1860
Grocers assistant and cheesemonger, he married Elizabeth Batten, daughter of John Batten, gardener, 27th April 1884 in Clerkenwell. Probably no children.

William George KIRTLAND = Annie F S WARREN > Family

Married 9 Feb 1907, St Mary of the Angels Catholic Ch, paddington

William George KIRTLAND:

Born 3 April 1864, Greenhithe, Kent
worked as a telegraph messenger, a cheesemongers assistant, and finally as a Prudential Agent


Annie F S WARREN:

daughter of George Lacey Warren, piano maker, and Sophia.
According to Arthur, Annie's sister Lilly was a dressmaker who lived in St James's Place and visited the family in a horse and carriage. His mother later told him that she was a mistress to the Prince of Wales.

Emma Esther KIRTLAND = Henry James HAYES > Family

Married 1901

Emma Esther KIRTLAND:

Born 19 September 1869, Margate, Kent
Died 1959
1881 was a library assistant.


Emma Kertland


Henry James HAYES:

Born ABT 1859
Died 1929
Dates from back of photo

Tommy KIRTLAND

( this may be same person as Joseph William b. 1858.)
Drowned at sea aged 4.
Story is that despite his wife's protests that she had had adream that her son drowned, Joseph tok his son out in a boat and the boy was drowned when a sudden storm arose.

info from Christine Fielding
By 1858, the Kertlands had moved to Greenhithe, Kent, where Joseph worked for the Coast Guard. His grandson, Arthur, said that his father claimed that he had been a harbour master at one point, but I'm afraid I have not turned up any such evidence. By the time Emma Esther Kertland was born on September 19, 1869 in Margate, Kent, Joseph was a pensioner from the coast guard (age 44).
He remained a naval pensioner the rest of his life and according to the 1881 Census, Joseph was a church verger living in Margate with wife. By the time his son Richard married on April 27, 1884, he was a lodging house keeper. And by 1891, the Kertlands (minus Richard) had moved to Marylebone Road. William worked as a cheesemonger's assistant and Emma as a library assistant. Joseph and Elizabeth continued to live with their son William, who by 1901 was an insurance agent. They eventually went to live upstairs from Emma and her husband Henry Hayes in Wood Green. Elizabeth died in early 1916 at the age of 90 and her husband followed her a week later.